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Back Fireing Problem ! PLEASE HELP !
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Athena



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Back Fireing Problem ! PLEASE HELP ! Reply with quote

Picked up my second hand GTS 250 today and well pleased.It has a PM exhaust fitted but apart from that it is standard.

I spent this afternoon getting used to it but the problem I have is when I slow down at a junction it " Back fires " ??? It seems to happen when I throttle off down to slow speed ??


This is the first four stroke I have ever had so Im still getting use to it so it could be just me ??
What am I doing wrong or is there a fault with the scooter ? my mate thinks its me getting use to the throttle.

If this is a fault how do I go about fixing it please

Thanks for your help

Cheers

Athena
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

might be worth disconecting the battery for a while then reconect it and

let the scoot tick over for 10 miniutes or so to reset the ecu to the pm pipe

then try again to see if it improves the popping
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a PM on my GT200, and had the same experience. It seems to be a standard feature with the PM. The only cure I found was to close my throttle slowly when coming to a stop.

Don't know whether PM's decibel killer would make a diference.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine and our Steves is the same. Seems it only happens when its cold. Once it warms up its fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what PMs do, mine is worse when cold, but it never goes away.... Not on mine anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainham boy wrote:
might be worth disconecting the battery for a while then reconect it and

let the scoot tick over for 10 miniutes or so to reset the ecu to the pm pipe

then try again to see if it improves the popping


try what rainham boy suggests, that usually does the trick, if not then it could be that the pipe is letting air in at either the head or where the lamba sensor screws it, possibly even the slip joint.

it can also be caused by the little oil collecting bubbles on the air filter being full.

@smudger:- try the disconnect and 10min tickover reset again m8, may do the trick Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maver wrote:
@smudger:- try the disconnect and 10min tickover reset again m8, may do the trick Wink


Rich, I did that when I installed it, I thought that the 10 min disconnect was just a shortcut, resetting the Lambda quickly, rather than it learning the new back pressure etc over time Question which it would have done after 500 miles, no Question Will give it another go though Wink If i can get rid of most of the pooping i'll be a lot happier with the pm than I am right now Cool

from another thread:

CheekyThomas wrote:
the popping is normal, its due to having no baffle and the ECU shutting the fueling off when the throttle is closed quickly to reduce emissions... its not harmful to anything... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smudger wrote:
Maver wrote:
@smudger:- try the disconnect and 10min tickover reset again m8, may do the trick Wink


Rich, I did that when I installed it, I thought that the 10 min disconnect was just a shortcut, resetting the Lambda quickly, rather than it learning the new back pressure etc over time Question which it would have done after 500 miles, no Question Will give it another go though Wink If i can get rid of most of the pooping i'll be a lot happier with the pm than I am right now Cool


do it again.... reading what you put it sounds like you disconnected for 10mins then just ran it as normal Wink

disconnect battery for a couple of minutes
reconnect battery
start scoot and let it idle for 10 minutes (cup of tea time)

should be fine Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did idle it for a good 10 mins first time after reconnecting the battery,

this time I disconnected the battery for 15 mins, then idled it for 15 mins, then rode it and it did seem better, there was still some backfiring, and the engine was warmer than it is at 7 on my way to work. Off tomorrow but will give it a go in the am and see what its like.

Although having said all this I'm gonna put the LV back on tomorrow, in it's new black Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit I love the burbling and backfiring from my PM pipe, especially when people hear this noisy 4 stroke and turn round to see that it's a scooter!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it wasn't my daily ride, no question I'd keep the PM on there, but for daily use the LV is the best all rounder. Just my opinion mind Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah pm is to loud for daily ride , and hate the backfire but mine has always done it Crying or Very sad did try disconnecting battery but didnt seem any different

but pm great when we are in a pack lol Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put the LV back on today and it lasted about an hour. PM is defo the superior pipe hands down.

At least I know know I have the right exhaust fitted. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must add re-reading that post I took the LV off because the PM is better not because the LV broke or anything Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM KING OF GTs PIPES


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