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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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When ya email putoline again... you want this specification.
SAE 5W-40, API SL, ACEA A3, JASO MA Fully Synthetic oil. |
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AIRMECH
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Or try this,we use this oil for the GTS, Putoline Technomoto Scooter 4T+ 5W40(jaso ma)£8.40 litre
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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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As long as its API grade SL then it will do nicely  |
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AIRMECH
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I`m aware the API sl spec is for engines up to 2004 and is therefore technically obsolete and the JASO MA spec is for 2007 onwards which is why I favour this oil for spec and value,apart from the fact we are Putoline dealers 
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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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No API grades are still current, car oils use SM nowadays...
And no that putoline isnt API SL its SJ.. so not good enough according to piaggio... putoline do list a Ester technomoto 5w/40 which is API SL rated. |
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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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As they bring newer and better oils out then the ratings change, modern oils are often better than the SL rating, and therefore they have introduced a SM grade...
Manufacturers will either quote a grade that must be used IE suzuki say the new GSXR1000K8 must only use API-SF or SG nothing higher.
Piaggio stated the oil must be API-SL or higher... so SL or SM or anything higher would be fine...
However anything lower is not good enough, as it wont be providing the lubrication that a better oil would... so even if the oil is synthetic and 5W/40 if its only API-SJ then its not good enough.
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AIRMECH
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I totally agree
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kevin..in
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| CheekyThomas wrote: | When ya email putoline again... you want this specification.
SAE 5W-40, API SL, ACEA A3, JASO MA Fully Synthetic oil. |
Ok I have asked again (silkolene) with the info you supplied and will post up their reply |
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kevin..in
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| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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recieved a reply
"QUOTE"
Hi Kevin,
SCOOT SPORT 4 is JASO MA, API SJ, Fully synthetic.
ACEA A3 is a car engine oil spec, we do not quote these on our scooter oils.
John can you confirm that SCOOT SPORT 4 will be suitable for the Piaggio ?
Regards, Graham
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so Scoot Sport 4 is OK to use? but SJ is lower spec than SL right?
more confused!! |
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monty9120
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | 5W/40 if its only API-SJ then its not good enough.
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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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All modern Piaggio scooters run Car spec engine oil as they dont have wet clutches.... if its not API SL grade its NOT good enough, switch to a better brand, many companys make SL grade bike oil as most bikes from 2003 use it.  |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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i'm just going to use the stuff cheeky thomas recommends from halfords
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Blackpool Paul
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like sound advice!
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monty9120
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ive just brought some car oil after all autos dont have wet clutchs.
meets the API SI. 4 litres of it, mineral oil though but not for my scoot anyway
£4.88 , btw i used this stuff in my bandit and i used to thrash the fook out of it. i just told him to change it more regular. its only a cbr125 without oil filter anyway
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