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| CheekyThomas wrote: | | Maver wrote: |
good idea to lube the whole bolt or it may seize in position which wouldn't be a good thing if you need to get the stand off for some reason 
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If had a good PDI when new, its already been greased |
grease applied during a PDI lasts forever..... 
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cheers 4 your help chaps
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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Maver wrote: | | CheekyThomas wrote: | | Maver wrote: |
good idea to lube the whole bolt or it may seize in position which wouldn't be a good thing if you need to get the stand off for some reason
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If had a good PDI when new, its already been greased |
grease applied during a PDI lasts forever..... |
Considering as nothing can get in there to wash it out... pretty much.
Ive never took one apart that ive greased from new thats not came out like new when ive needed it too.
As the bolt is never exposed to anything due to being inside the engine casing, it nevers gets the chance for the grease to be washed out...and as the bolt never turns it doesnt even work its way out.
Trying to get the stand bolt sleeve out of the alloy casing is a whole different story and always ends up a nightmare when the engine needs splitting. 
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to meet the dealer who removes all the nuts and bolt to grease them on pdi  ......he'd have my custom thats for sure, can't see it myself though. 
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CheekyThomas
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I always do
And grease all electrical connectors, caliper pins, brake pads, exhaust mounts etc etc... thats what a PDI is for!
Do them at the start when its all nice and new and comes undone easy saves a lot of hassle in 12months time when corrosion sets in!
When i started i made the mistake but i soon learnt the hard way... its made worse by the fact we are on the coast as sea air is a killer... if i didnt copper slip and grease everything from new, then its a 100% fact that by first service a bolt somewhere would be siezed solid and snap.. it was always the case bolts, air filter mount bolts or mudguard mounts.
So nowadays when i can take my time as not out to impress the boss to keep my job, i take my time and do it as i would if it was my own bike. |
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monty9120
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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dealers get money to pdi a bike
a decent dealer uses the money for just that. it saves piaggio money and gives the dealer a good rep
some dont even bother
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We get paid hardly anything for a PDI though... Thats the shame.
Especially when you get models like the Zip50 and 100cc, where you have to do valve clearances, upjet the carbs and change the oil before they will run... basically on them your selling at cost and making the money from the customer buying the extras and the servicing. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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 well i went and met mr cheeky today! had a yarn and what a nice fella................younger than i thought tho he will get my business thats for sure
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oooeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr gav
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not that sort of business you loon!!
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Just found this thread (been busy ya know!) Wadya know ....mines the same,it needs pushing back with my foot.I sprayed some wd 40 on it for now since it`s been in the down position for the last few weeks.I`ll take the above advice.That`s what this forum is...fun and informative,well done yous lot and keep up the good work!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| fook it too cold out at the mo to bother fucking around with it...oh for a bigger shed, mine's full of other scoots Just need to remeber to push it up probably for now |
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nicey
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do u ave 2 swear jj not very lady like lol
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i just drive mine till it springs up
actually the new engine has a different stand but that does it occasionally as well
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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kin' ell.
mines sticking now. gonna have to rip it out and grease it up. its a nighmare when you havent got a bike jack. 
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