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jetjet200
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 Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: Bald tyre at 3,400 miles??? |
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My standard Sava rear tyre on my GTS is already bald at 3,400 miles. I'm no speed demon so can't believe that it's already a gonna.
What sort of mileage did everyone else get out of theirs before their first change?
cheers
Forgot to say... I'm gonna do the job myself (other than actually putting tyre on rim)... is there any nasty little surprises or anything different from a standard rear tyre fitment that I should be aware of?
cheers again
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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The sava`s are pretty poor mate.. ...
The pilot sport is the gts lads tyre of choice.. ...proven quality and excellent grip.. ... 
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monty9120
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i replaced my tyre at the end of september to a pilot sport. ive now had a new tyre on a week as it was so bald. so it lasted about 3 months, i wouldnt mind i havent even been on any rallies in that time
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better to take the exhaust off at the head rather than the obvious joint near the stand, more fiddly but the gasket at this joint has been know to fail if disturbed leading to the cutting torch like gas causing problems, most should have been done on a piaggio recall and changed to a better down pipe but the gasket at the joint is still better left alone.
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suit scoot
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heres teh low down on whats good and whats not.
and yes i have had all these tyres on my scooter! 
avon viper stryke - not bad in the dry, but useless in the wet, the durability is quite good.
continental zippy 1 - best compromise, good grip, cheap to buy, long life, but when they square off slightly the scooter handles like a pissed monkey.
michelin pilot sport - best grip, but they last 5 minutes and are vey expensive. (i have one on the front at the moment)
continental conti twist sport - good grip, medium price, good in the wet. (dont know how long they last because its my current rear tyre)
kings tyre - USELESS SHIT!!! slide all over the place in all weathers... i think theyre made out of plastic
sava's - another awful tyre, last 5 minutes and you have no grip. nearly killed me them things!
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AlbertTeddyBear
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I have Savas, and the rear will need to be replaced in 300 miles, having only done 4000 miles by then. My Michelin Gold Standards on the X9 were/are terrific. Piaggio didn't stint on decent tyres for that bike. Mind you when I remember the cost of the bike from new.......I'd expect decent tyres. |
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| suit scoot wrote: | | michelin pilot sport - best grip, but they last 5 minutes and are vey expensive. (i have one on the front at the moment) |
what do you call expensive????
my tyre place fits and balances a pilot sport to a loose rim for me for £36 which i don't find too bad..........
how much are the continentals?
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suit scoot
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i get zippy's for 27 squid.
theyre only rated to 75 mph though, but i sit at 80 all day on them... 
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get heidanau racers on it 90+ mph speed rating mine have been on for over 10,000 miles with out chaging em still as good as when i put em on and i use the bike everyday for work and to go on rallies
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jetjet200
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I'm gonna take my exhaust off at the obvious joint. Although my GTS has been fitted with the revised downpipe, shall I order a new gasket? Does the new system have a gasket?
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CheekyThomas
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Yes you still need a gasket, and it should be replaced each time the exhaust is taken off... its part number is 826388.
Not a fan of michelin myself, but only due to the previous experience with sportsbike tyres, not scooter ones.... The Pirelli diablo scooter tyre is decent.
But its all rider choice. |
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jetjet200
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| thanks for all the useful info everybody and thanks for the part number |
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| Maver wrote: | | suit scoot wrote: | | michelin pilot sport - best grip, but they last 5 minutes and are vey expensive. (i have one on the front at the moment) |
what do you call expensive????
my tyre place fits and balances a pilot sport to a loose rim for me for £36 which i don't find too bad..........
how much are the continentals? |
Thats very cheap Mav. they're about £45 each around here and on the net. Sp4u do the cheapest Mitch I've seen at £35 each
Personally I've gone off Mitch Pilots for two reasons. Firstly they seem to hate any sort of change in road surface, be that a white line or tar seam, the jump straight off and sometimes thats quite scary. The other reason is they only last about 2.5K miles, And with the rear being such a pain in the arse to change and the worry of chipping the paint on my rims everytime the are changed, so i'm gonna try some thing new after five sets of Pilots.
The Grip level though is superb so I might need to take my time a bit on the new ones till I find out how sticky they are.
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| smirnoff wrote: | | Maver wrote: | | suit scoot wrote: | | michelin pilot sport - best grip, but they last 5 minutes and are vey expensive. (i have one on the front at the moment) |
what do you call expensive????
my tyre place fits and balances a pilot sport to a loose rim for me for £36 which i don't find too bad..........
how much are the continentals? |
Thats very cheap Mav. they're about £45 each around here and on the net. Sp4u do the cheapest Mitch I've seen at £35 each |
and that is FITTED at £36 not a price to add P+P to 
bike friendly tyre place i go to here in lynn, spot on chaps, i just have to remember to go in and order one a couple of days before
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Yeah its a good price indeed... very good.
I assume they do car tyres too, so get a good wholesale discount. |
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