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Bizarre Indicator Problem

 
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Neil
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Location: Exeter

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Bizarre Indicator Problem Reply with quote

Bought from new 06 plate GTS. Very Happy Have now done 7K miles Smile Smile
I've had a few daft problems, most appear on this forum after also been experienced by fellow GTS owners. I also have to say that my dealer has been spot on sorting any problem out.
But today...... Shocked
Whether turning the indicator rocker switch left or right, my headset headlamp and oil warning lights start flashing - not my arrow lights as expected. Pulled over, actual headlight is not flashing, but then nor are my indicators. Confused
I have literally 'looked' at both the switch and the relay, but what am I meant to see?
Two weeks out of warranty, and three weeks before Beatsugar Rolling Eyes
Any ideas?....
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rainham boy
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be moisture in the electrics as its been a bit damp lately
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Neil
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ordinarily I would agree, but the scoot is sheltered at work and garaged at night. I am also a tad sceptical because of previous faults being caused by the basic build quality being poor, and €1 parts being used instead of spending a little more to make up the overall £3K+ price tag. Evil or Very Mad
There. Sorry, rant over. Back to the problem...... or at least hand signals whilst I sort this. Confused
Any electrical pointers Question
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Neil
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After putting it back together again last night and closing the garage door, I tried it again this morning. In the dimpsy light of the garage i can see that it is all the headset warning lights and even the headset 'back-lighting' that is flashing/pulsing. Shocked But not the indicator arrows (or indicators) Sad
I have checked all the fuses in the glove box (because I'm not sure which one is linked to the indicators) but they all seem OK.

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CheekyThomas
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the back of the speedo head is corroded, and the feed from the indicator switch is bleeding away from the indicator circuit though corrosion on the PCB to other items around it...

... remove the headset cover and unplug the speedo unit and see if that fixes it. Wink
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Neil
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I've removed the headset cover and I unplugged the black electrical junction box with all the wires. Turned the key (could hear the electrical motor noise) no dash display (as expected) tried the indicators but got nothing. Is that what you meant?
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Neil
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really getting anywhere with this, so I've put it all back together. Crying or Very sad
Only now i have now dash readout at all Exclamation Mad Exclamation
Scoot sounds awful and doesn't want to idle.
Wouldn't know if the engine management light was on or flashing 'cos I've got no display Exclamation Rolling Eyes
One for the dealer............. & the bank manager Evil or Very Mad
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CheekyThomas
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like classic dead dash... but if your lucky it will be the multiplug dying Rolling Eyes

If your local to me (suffolk) then i can take a look.. think ive got a old GTS dash somewhere if it needs cannablising for parts Wink
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Neil
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Cheeky
Is there any good news about having a dead dash two weeks outside of warranty Question
Thanks everso for the offer, but I live in Exeter (Devon), so unfortunately it's a little too far. But it is appreciated. Cool
I have a dealer 2 mins away but they are massive m/cycle dealers and only do scooters for pin money. Mad (which is why i didn't buy from there) My chosen dealer is suffering from staff shortages and volume of work & so can't fit me in until next week. Rolling Eyes
Thankfully the good guys at Yeovil have managed to fit me in on Friday. Razz
However, nobody seems confident about a claim this side of the warranty Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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jetex
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would check all your earthing points. Is your indicator problem when you switch on either side, or just one side in particular ? The engine will run rough if the ECU cannot earth properly. Check your battery to chassis earth, and engine to chassis earth.
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Neil
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy I hope I'm not too hasty in posting this, but i think it's all sorted now Very Happy
The top guys at South West Scooters plugged her in and translated the diagnostics....... and through a slow process of elimination, found a broken wire in the loom. Did a test by-passing the broken bit of the wire and everything sprang back to life Wink
So they fixed it proper, and she seems okay again. Laughing
I know that scoot is incredibly 'green', but a bio-degrading/decomposing wiring loom..... Question C'mon Rolling Eyes
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Location: naaaaaarfolk we drive tractors and talk loike PIRATES

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad to hear you've got it up and running ok again Cool

thanks for the feedback, it may help others in the future Cool
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