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elementalist Inspector
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 287 Location: Essex, innit
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: Suspension locking problem (?) |
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The missus just rang me to tell me the scoot is "beeping at her".
The warning indicator beep is sounding a tad erratically when the ignition is off and the suspension lock warning light (not the big one with a lock on it, the small one that is the same light as the seat sensor) is on.
It sounds like (from reading up on Modern Vespa) the hydraulics have dropped to low pressure.
It may be a coincidence but for some time I have noticed the concrete garage floor under the scooter being damp. I admit I disregarded it as being condensation that had dripped off the scoot after these nasty cold nights we've been having. There certainly seems to have been more liquid than could possibly have leaked out of the steering system hydraulics, but *shrug* what do I know?!
It may also be a coincidence that I recently took it to my dealer to have the steering bearings changed...
Again, from reading Modern Vespa (and the user manual) I'm pretty sure it's safe to ride (the locking system is seperate from the steering and suspension), but I thought I'd mention it here and see what you folk thought
The missus thinks the oil light was 'dimly lit' too, but that may have been a trick of the light... or another coincedence...
I wish you were nearer, Cheeky T! Would love to get a mechanic I trust to know what he's doing give my poor scoot a health check
Doing anything at the weekend, mate? _________________ Do two and 1/4 rallies mean I'm not a scoot noob anymore? |
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CheekyThomas Guvernor
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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To do the individual leg bearings, you need to release the hydraulics pressure as its fed through the section.... sounds like they didnt tighten it up enough.
Its hydraulic oil, so should feel greasy to the touch. |
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elementalist Inspector
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 287 Location: Essex, innit
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm I don't think it was oily. Maybe it is just dripping condensation...
Guess I can whip the front off and have a look at the reservoir later.
PMed you Mr T [/i] _________________ Do two and 1/4 rallies mean I'm not a scoot noob anymore? |
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CheekyThomas Guvernor
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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elementalist wrote: |
PMed you Mr T [/i] |
PM'ed me huh.... whats with i bit at the end?? Turning all gangsta on me???
Respect.... Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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elementalist Inspector
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 287 Location: Essex, innit
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Me? Gansta? I'm more Ginsters than gansta!
That was a stray italics code, I fink.
Booyaa! _________________ Do two and 1/4 rallies mean I'm not a scoot noob anymore? |
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CheekyThomas Guvernor
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Definately check the fluid level.... if it is low fluid it will beep continuously when the suspension lock is applied, it should still partly lock, using just the mechanical section (caliper and disc) so will be slightly more wobbly than when fully locked.
As for me this weekend, working saturday... expo show sunday. |
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Maver Site Admin
Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 2193 Location: naaaaaarfolk we drive tractors and talk loike PIRATES
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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bloody hell dave, sounds like you might have to use the.......
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rainham boy Guvernor
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 511 Location: on the road to nowhere
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Maver wrote: | bloody hell dave, sounds like you might have to use the.......
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STAND for a while |
can you remember how, which way it goes _________________ Darkside, Norwich Broadsmen SC
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SPIKE troop
Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Rugeley bypass, aka Fugly Test track
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Whats a stand _________________
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elementalist Inspector
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 287 Location: Essex, innit
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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It seems to have 'recovered' on it's own for now, but I put it on the stand. Yes, I remembered which way - the first time of getting it wrong was embarassing enough to help me remember!!!
It was stiff as fook though - that's the second time it's been used _________________ Do two and 1/4 rallies mean I'm not a scoot noob anymore? |
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SOELEY Inspector
Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 106
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I use the stand every day at work, it's stood for 8 to 10 hours, so why not. Put it on stand and unlock the suspension, whether it's beneficial long term, i don't know _________________ Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Innocenti Big Cheese
Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 1205 Location: Surrey Village
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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i forgot the stand over xmas period and handbrake on went to get new tyre fitted and rear wheel wouldnt move !!!! the salt off the road and crap was on the handbrake spring at the back and took ages to come loose !!!!! lesson learned use the stand _________________ GTS OWNERS CLUB
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CheekyThomas Guvernor
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Hydraulic stand is for "Short Term" use only.... its not designed to replace the stand |
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elementalist Inspector
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 287 Location: Essex, innit
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting new symptoms discovered:
As I said, when you turn the ignition key to the Off position is when the beeping and lightshow begins. I don't think it's actually to do with the suspension lock at all, that's just the warning light that flashes most. The oil light also comes on and then stays on, but very dim and flickery (weird). Sometimes the engine light too.
Here's the really weird new information though: all the weirdness stops when you pull on a brake lever!
In summary: the bike runs fine (though the battery did flatten). When you turn the key to the Off position, some of the warning lights show (some dim and flickery) and the beeper sounds in a very random way, like there is a bad connection. Pull on a brake (either) and all the weirdness stops!
So I'm thinking now it's possibly some electrical connection corroded and when the key is in the Off position, it perhaps isn't quite and is freaking things out? (Highly technical term there).
Any ideas? _________________ Do two and 1/4 rallies mean I'm not a scoot noob anymore? |
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monty9120 Guvernor
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 861 Location: North London
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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The batterys flat mate _________________
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