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smudger
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: Scorpion v PM |
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I know this is a topic that’s been discussed to death around the various forums not just here, but I have a couple of questions to ask around the whole issue if you'll indulge me...
1. Have Scorpion improved the quality, are people having issues with the VE211 or the VE210?
2. What are the consequences of fitting the non road legal PM pipe? I lean towards the Scorp as it is legal on European roads. |
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Babyarms
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Location: Sunderland
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if Scorpion have improved the quality, if they haven't then don't bother getting one if you do a lot of miles (ask Suit Scoot, they fall to bits).
PM is expensive and loud but it is high quality. You'll have to take it off for MOT's but you would have to be unlucky to get pulled with it on.
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dougl65
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Location: Wanstead, London
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently Scorpion have changed the can. It now comes with two strap mountings, I don't know if there are other differences. |
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Rub
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Location: Qualicum Beach BC
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Leo Vince is coming out with their 4 Road exhaust for the GTS very soon. I believe it is supposed to be shipping this month.
Obviously it would have a single header but the basic shape is the same.
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Scootlife
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Location: Nott's
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Scorpion have redesigned the internals as well, so it's pretty much a complete new can. I've just had a new titanium one on mine to replace a 4000 mile old one that had rattled to bits. The double mounts seem much better, no difference in performance but it's a bit quieter than the old can. So far so good and no problems with getting things sorted out if a pipe fails with Scorpion.
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smudger
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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If the scorpion has been improved then great. I had one on my Dragster and loved it, but I keep getting told to go for a PM, but it's not road legal and would therefore mean putting the original one back on every 12 months once it needs MOTing, something I'm a little nervous about because of the well documented problems with the Vespa exhaust and fire...
Must admit though the Leo Vince looks interesting...
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smudger
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| is the 4road gonna be a performance upgrade though, will I get a better sound out of the scoot? |
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Pepy27
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Joined: 23 Sep 2007
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Location: Cambridgeshire
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Google Leo Vinces web site and search out that can, they have a sound bite on there.  |
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Innocenti
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Location: Surrey Village
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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 looks nice price yet anyone??????
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Pepy27
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| About £230.00 ish from Leo Vinces web site i think. |
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Outlaw
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I,ve had a Scorpian on mine for over a year now with out any problems 
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Gwilym
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you buy the Scorpion end can seperate and,if so,how much? |
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smudger
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Outlaw wrote: | | I,ve had a Scorpian on mine for over a year now with out any problems |
Wow now I'm confused outlaw....
How many miles have you done with the scorp? |
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jbhoy67
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| any links to the page the pipes on cant seem to find it |
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Outlaw
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Done around 3,000 miles it's suprised myself  ,must have had a rogue good one.
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