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jetex · Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject:

Ian, start up your scoot with the red master key. Switch off, and immediately put in your new key and start the engine again. Hey Presto ! it should now be programmed. Try starting it again later with the new key to make sure all is o/k.

Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

Will give it a go now.........back in 5mins Wink

Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

nope no joy........lights come on but engine management light and code buttons light up permenantly ???????????????

HELP !!!

Big Ian

jetex · Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject:

Instead of starting engine then, sitch on ignition with red key, switch off and try new key .

Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

Ok will try again.......thanks for your help jetex Wink

back in 5 mins Laughing

Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

get same thing..........code light flashes twice with new key and then stays on permanant along with engine management light Confused

Big Ian

jetex · Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject:

Are you sure that the new key has a transponder chip fitted ? I think you got it from Cheeky Thomas, so it should have. Otherwise, it's possible that the vacant slots in the E.C.U have been used so it won't accept any more keys. I'll check my owners handbook to see what it says, meanwhile it might be worth asking the question on the modernvespa site to see if anyone else has a solution ??

jetex · Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject:

Ian, have a look on the Modernvespa site, in the Technical Library section, the procedure is in there. If that does'nt help, I suggest that you may have a problem with the transponder chip in the key.

Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

Vacant slots? thats a new one to me....so used to non technical terms like you get on a lamby Embarassed

All I know is the guy I got it from only ever used the mater key and had lost the slave one.........will try and find modernvespa site and ask....many thanks for all your help Jetex Wink

Big Ian

jetex · Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject:

Most modern cars and bikes that have transponder type immobiliser systems fitted, usually have ECU's that will store about 6 different keys. All the keys are able to start the engine, but have slight electronic differences so that each member of the family can have their own key. On some cars, when you switch on the ignition, the seat, steering wheel and mirrors all adjust to your personal settings. This information is picked up off 'your' key. This is why I said that the slots could be full ? If this was the case, the ECU would have to be wiped clean with the Vespa diagnostic tool and re-programmed.

Innocenti · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:52 am Post subject:

ian,

just found in online manual m8 look in electrical mite help Confused

gives how to program key and faults Wink

http://gtsownersclub.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=6

good luck m8
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Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

Still can't suss it out...........came close to setting the sodding thing on fire as I'm cheesed off now Evil or Very Mad

Big Ian

jetex · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject:

Ian, are you definitely sure that your key has a transponder chip in it ? If not, I will get you a blank key with a transponder from our local suppliers.

CheekyThomas · Guvernor Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374

Yes its a transponder key... its a genuine Vespa one Wink

If you look on the metal shaft of the key you will see a symbol on it like a triangle telling you its a transponder key...

Your not coding it right thats all... even i struggle at times.

The trick is SPEED... no not the drug, i mean time...

Master Key in and on for 2 secs then off and out...

New key in and on for 2 secs then off and out....

Then master key back in and on for 2 secs...

It should now be programmed... so try the new key and all should be fine.

If not repeat as sometimes it takes a few goes, the timing is super critical.

Bigianscooter · Guvernor Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 700

Ok will have another few goes to get it sorted but I am doing very quick but I'll try it quicker Wink

Big Ian