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smirnoff · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Another non starter.

Well mine has gone now Crying or Very sad

But I Don't think this is as simple as a ht or plug. When I turn the ignition on there is no initial winding noise that you get. The lights, dash, indicators, horn and brake lights all work. I have stripped down the headset and glove box to check all the connections, i've checked the cutout swith and start switch and all are fine. Looked at the fuses and again all seem ok. I've tried the master key but still nothing. Any ideas??
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Rhoodman · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject:

This sounds really stupid Phil, but I had Cagiva Mito that had this problem. I smacked the starter motor with a screw driver whilst hitting the starter button. Hey presto, it worked!

This method also worked on my brother's Mini.

Starter motor is my bet.

If you need a second pair of hands or someone to stand around umming and ahhring, I'm off tomorrow and all weekend! Wink

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smirnoff · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:

Well a little more work but still no luck. Checked and replaced all the fuse, even the ones under the seat (Who knew there were some there). Ive got the two relays borrowed off Buddyphil to try in the morning but I am thinking it could be the imobiliser thingy. When i turn the key there is'nt the slight clunk that there used to be.
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Innocenti · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject:

thats sounds well strange...wot as if the bike will not recognise the key ??? could you try to reprogram it ?? Sad

no good m8
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smirnoff · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:

Yea, the key turns and the electics (Dash, horn, headlight etc etc) come on but the fuel pump does'nt prime and there are no relay clunks. I tried ther brown key but how do you reprograme it?
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Innocenti · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject:

its in the manual i think also there is a post somewere not sure if on here...shame you aint got the diagnostic computer handy Crying or Very sad

ill have a look see if i can find post

found this from cheeky might help m8 Confused

http://gtsownersclub.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=137&highlight=key
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CheekyThomas · Guvernor Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374

Whats the led on the dash doing when the key is turned on?

Try unplugging and reconnecting the main ECU wiring connector as its a known problem area on the GTS... see if that helps.

smirnoff · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject:

I'll double check tomorrow but i'm pretty sure it's Not lighting at all.
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smirnoff · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:

Yep. no led at all.
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CheekyThomas · Guvernor Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1374

Mmm sounds a little weird?

Shame your so far away or you could borrow the ecu tool and see what it says... saves so much time Confused

markbsac · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 13

i dunno we buy these for modern reliability !!!!!!!!!!!!...stick with my px and lammy from now on i think

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monty9120 · Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject:

unluckilly with all the pikeys around you need all the security you can get

shame its more heartache to the owners then anyone else Laughing

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jetex · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject:

It sounds to me that the main relay is not powering up. It should prime the pump for 2 seconds, then switch off if no RPM's are detected from the rev counter. This is a safety feature required by law, to switch off the pump if you crash the bike. Not sure where the relay is, as I haven't had cause to play with my GTS yet as it has only done 300 miles. Swapping the relays is worth a try if you have known good ones, otherwise you would need to check each individual wire is doing what it's supposed to. It's a time consuming job needing a multi-meter. Best left to someone who knows what their doing if you're not sure.

smirnoff · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject:

Still no answers yet from the shop Crying or Very sad

Not lookin good for Yarmouth Rolling Eyes

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