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suit scoot
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CheekyThomas wrote:
Running low on oil, sounds obvious but regular checks are needed as its not uncommon to get a little crankcase pressure shove some oil through the breather system into the airbox.. it doesnt need to do this often to leave the engine too short on oil to be happy at higher rpms... after all it only holds 1 litre of oil which isnt a great deal.

But the Biggest killer of the quasar or leader engines...

Over tight valve clearances... if your lucky it just gets bad to start or cuts out often.. if not it gets messy Rolling Eyes




nasty!!


25,000miles of constant hammering up and down our motorways.


it aint blown up yet, but i keep proper on top of the thing. i change the oil myself after every 2k.

then when it needs the biggy services it goes to white's in darlington because im a lazy arse.

and guess what, it still shows 94 on the clock with a fat tyre.

RELIABLE AS HELL! (with the right care)


it gets bounced off the rev limiter everytime it goes out, almost Confused


im sure it would have gone pop by now..
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suit scoot wrote:


im sure it would have gone pop by now..


Those sound like famous last words to me! Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suit scoot wrote:
...............and guess what, it still shows 94 on the clock with a fat tyre.


fat tyre

is that a 140 instead of a 130???? pilot sport??

any problems? did it rub anywhere?? loss of acceleration??

tempted to try one myself..... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maver wrote:
suit scoot wrote:
...............and guess what, it still shows 94 on the clock with a fat tyre.


fat tyre

is that a 140 instead of a 130???? pilot sport??

any problems? did it rub anywhere?? loss of acceleration??

tempted to try one myself..... Wink


My last two rear tyres have been pilot sport 140's and they fitted fine, didn't rub anywhere.

With the fat tyre on, I can never hit the rev limiter, and get around the mid nineties on the clock, in good conditions.

Truth be told, I like the pies, and I weigh nearly 18 stone, and i'm running 14.7g rollers- This is probably why I can't hit the limiter! Embarassed Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhoodman wrote:
Maver wrote:
suit scoot wrote:
...............and guess what, it still shows 94 on the clock with a fat tyre.


fat tyre

is that a 140 instead of a 130???? pilot sport??

any problems? did it rub anywhere?? loss of acceleration??

tempted to try one myself..... Wink


My last two rear tyres have been pilot sport 140's and they fitted fine, didn't rub anywhere.

With the fat tyre on, I can never hit the rev limiter, and get around the mid nineties on the clock, in good conditions.

Truth be told, I like the pies, and I weigh nearly 18 stone, and i'm running 14.7g rollers- This is probably why I can't hit the limiter! Embarassed Wink


well i'm a mere slip of a lad at 13 stone so i should be ok Laughing Laughing

any downsides like loss of pull on the inclines from over gearing??
mines all standard apart form a PM........
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomas. you say valve problems, but that cant just happen as in that picture can it

if obviousely i know my runner is hard to start i will know theres a problem Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that known as Valve bounce Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maver wrote:
Rhoodman wrote:
Maver wrote:
suit scoot wrote:
...............and guess what, it still shows 94 on the clock with a fat tyre.


fat tyre

is that a 140 instead of a 130???? pilot sport??

any problems? did it rub anywhere?? loss of acceleration??

tempted to try one myself..... Wink


My last two rear tyres have been pilot sport 140's and they fitted fine, didn't rub anywhere.

With the fat tyre on, I can never hit the rev limiter, and get around the mid nineties on the clock, in good conditions.

Truth be told, I like the pies, and I weigh nearly 18 stone, and i'm running 14.7g rollers- This is probably why I can't hit the limiter! Embarassed Wink


well i'm a mere slip of a lad at 13 stone so i should be ok Laughing Laughing

any downsides like loss of pull on the inclines from over gearing??
mines all standard apart form a PM........


i hit the limiter all the time down hills, but i weigh 10st.

accelleration is a little slower.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

monty9120 wrote:
thomas. you say valve problems, but that cant just happen as in that picture can it

if obviousely i know my runner is hard to start i will know theres a problem Cool


Yes it can just happen, only the 125 gives hard to start issues when the valves get tight, normally they start and run, but leak a little combustion pressure through the inlet, this causes heat to build up on the inlet valve stem far above and beyond what it was designed to accept and basically they get fatigue and snap off... and then you get that pictures mess.

NEVER EVER wait for running issues before doing valve clearances... by then its too late and doing damage.. Valves and valve seats are easy damaged and expensive to repair, where as adjusting the valves is cheap!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackpool Paul wrote:
Is that known as Valve bounce Laughing


And yes you could certainly call it that....

... more like Valve Hop Skip & Jump though. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom, how much is it to just check the valve clearances? I can do the rest of the service myself, but I'd rather have the valves checked professionally! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maver wrote:
Rhoodman wrote:
Maver wrote:
suit scoot wrote:
...............and guess what, it still shows 94 on the clock with a fat tyre.


fat tyre

is that a 140 instead of a 130???? pilot sport??

any problems? did it rub anywhere?? loss of acceleration??

tempted to try one myself..... Wink


My last two rear tyres have been pilot sport 140's and they fitted fine, didn't rub anywhere.

With the fat tyre on, I can never hit the rev limiter, and get around the mid nineties on the clock, in good conditions.

Truth be told, I like the pies, and I weigh nearly 18 stone, and i'm running 14.7g rollers- This is probably why I can't hit the limiter! Embarassed Wink


well i'm a mere slip of a lad at 13 stone so i should be ok Laughing Laughing

any downsides like loss of pull on the inclines from over gearing??
mines all standard apart form a PM........


You got a short memory Maver Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhoodman wrote:
Tom, how much is it to just check the valve clearances? I can do the rest of the service myself, but I'd rather have the valves checked professionally! Wink


Depends where you go... but if you half mechanically minded its dead easy. Takes 30mins max. (or about 6hours on my aprilia Laughing )
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fleecemeister wrote:
If you've got a "worrying about my scooter blowing up" fetish, go and buy a Lambretta Wink


Laughed my arse off at this comment, it's why I bought a modern Vespa as I have a "scooter not costing me unnecessary cash" fetish myself leaving me money for £8 tesco tents etc, god I can be a tight arse at times!
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