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Jason
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Irregular idle speed Reply with quote

Not really a problem as such, yet!
I've noticed the idle speed is a bit irregular and thought nothing of it until today when the scooter cut out twice 1st thing this morning not long after starting. Then coming home tonight giving it full throttle and doing about 85mph it felt like it wanted to cut out briefly, would the rev limiter do that?

Still don't know enough about this scooter yet to tackle much with confidence! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rev limiter cutting in feels like a sudden very brief jerk.

is this a 250?

as for the irregular idle issue, i'd check the lamdba senser is tight and the wires connected, then i'd disconnect the battery for a few minutes, re-connect it then let the scooter idle for a good 10 mins.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's a 250, i'll have a look at the sensor and the wires and do the battery disconnect tomorrow, reckon i can manage that much!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason wrote:
Yeah it's a 250, i'll have a look at the sensor and the wires and do the battery disconnect tomorrow, reckon i can manage that much!


if the sensor is loose or the wires to it disconnected it won't be sending the correct info to the brain to give the correct air/fuel mix, hence lumpy idle, if everything is ok, sensor is tight, wires correct then it could be the brain needs to re-set hence disconnecting the battery and 10min idle.

disadvantage of disconnecting battery is you'll have to re-set clock and possibly do km's to miles and temp from "F" to "C" on the dash.

what reg is it??
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a 2005 model, luckily the previous owner wrote down instructions on how to switch from kms to miles, f to c.

It's standard apart from a PM tuning pipe which was already on the scooter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rev limter cutting in is guaranteed to put the shits up you the first few times it happens - must be Piaggio's way of replacing that "shit I've heat-siezed!" feeling on the P-range!!

Still makes my arse clamp tight if I'm not watching my speed on the motorway! Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Irregular idle speed Reply with quote

Jason wrote:
Not really a problem as such, yet!
I've noticed the idle speed is a bit irregular and thought nothing of it until today when the scooter cut out twice 1st thing this morning not long after starting. Then coming home tonight giving it full throttle and doing about 85mph it felt like it wanted to cut out briefly, would the rev limiter do that?

Still don't know enough about this scooter yet to tackle much with confidence! Embarassed


mine did this ..... took a while to find problem , was ht lead cap end , corroded.. dealer cut a very short piece off , ..cured .. never happened again
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep classic symptoms, spark plug going off, Re place with a new one, or cap, ditto, or it may need its brain Re mapping like mine did, you will have to take it to a main dealers for that, which there supposed to do on a major service, is yours ready for servicing?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could also need the ECU update if its a 2005 model... classic symptoms.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The scooter has done 15,000 miles. Last service was at 8,000 miles I think. Not had this one long so don't know if it's had any updates. I take it my local Piaggio dealer should be able to do this easy enough?

I did the ECU reset tonight and let the engine run for 10mins. Still sounds like every now and then it's not getting enough fuel.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like its about ready for a service with the mileage, and ask them to update the brain, which I believe main dealers should do anyway, mine kept cutting out altogether, only cured once it had its brain booted.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will be booking it in for a service for sure. Scooter ran much better coming into work today, didn't back fire once!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason wrote:
Will be booking it in for a service for sure. Scooter ran much better coming into work today, didn't back fire once!


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